Someday, you will understand


This topic has been thrown around a bit in my lyrical workings and music. It includes everything from our first breath of air, to us being conditioned to our surroundings and to “follow orders” and never question “why” we do certain things. I feel this can be a bit of a controversial topic due to the nature of truth seekers seeking answers. Because they have felt that all the conformity and answers given to them, aren’t enough or just really don’t hit them in a way that they recognize it and accept it as universal truth.

We take our 1st breath of air and immediately we are given a name. Throughout growing up, we ourselves gather like a sponge, all the ideologies our parents have grown up with (Religion, Politics, etc) and just keep learning from then on. Gathering information as we grow and molding our own idea of what life is, through other ideas that have been presented by other human beings. We go by what society expects of us, either by joining in on the popular club and doing the same thing the others are doing (mainstream things), some of us are just pushed back and because of our differences are left all alone.

Many come to the point of hating themselves so much because they cannot be accepted, as they don’t feel a need to be a “Set structure” that society sets up. You are given the idea that you can climb up the ladder, make plenty of money, have a nice big house, marry the partner of your dreams and live happily ever after. Unfortunately, in this dog eat dog world, where many thrive on competition, many don’t make it to the point of being a “success” in society’s eyes. But hey! there are treatments for that. You end up drugged up and so numb because you don’t fit the criteria set out. Believe me, its not just the people that are all alone, it is also the people that are popular that feel this way too!

There comes a point where thinking “outside the box” is condemned in this “Brave New World”. Where we make war for peace, where we are constantly lied to about situations and pushed to hate each other over petty differences. When we, as humanity should be loving each other, not killing each other. But it goes much deeper than that, much deeper than you realize. To the point you are so depressed of your surroundings that you start opening your mind and start seeking answers. Because nothing that has been given to you makes sense.

When there are many people in the streets all alone, and a human being cannot help or is unwilling to help because of certain circumstances. Because everyone has been conditioned to show a false face to the world through social media, to garner the attention. But yet they feel that makes them happy, when in reality it is the opposite.

Life itself goes much deeper than what we see, and what we hear, the opposites always have a middle driving force that makes the experience possible. The ying/yang so to speak, in this thread, I will try to explain what we are truly living at these times. How we have been enslaved with us happily accepting and selling ourselves for a green piece of paper. Welcome to my thread that “Someday, you will understand…”

The beauty of an ever questioning mind

very well said dear friend :star_struck::hugs::heartbeat::hearts: high fives to you


This might be the best introduction a thread has ever had on these forums :smile:

On a serious note, I’ve also been looking into various topics for some time. It started about four years ago, when I began questioning things that are going on in this world.

Last week I finished a great book that I really recommend! I made a post about it in another thread: What Toots Your Horn?


Very good video and very enlightening to anyone who doesn’t understand the concept of authority. With that, it is just the tip of the iceberg, as it involves our very existence and WHY this is done.

I have read the following books concerning matters of spirituality and the soul:

1- The Red Book by Carl Jung (Mr. Jung was one of the founding fathers of psychology, this book took nearly 100 years to publish!)

2- The Ra Material by Carla Rueckert, Don Elkins, and Jim McCarty (You can find this book online for FREE:

3- Brave New World by Aldous Huxley (Utopian future, similarities to our society)

4- Animal Farm by George Orwell

I am currently diving into Occult books, as I am very deep down the rabbit hole of all this. Such being works of Aleister Crowley and such.

To add to what the video explained, yes, most politicians always stir and rile up people with petty differences. People don’t realize that it does not matter what political party they are for, they both have the same intentions in mind, make people obey and pretty much have the law rule in their favor. I can tell the lies on television nowadays because I step outside, and don’t see any of this happening. I moved recently and my neighbors are nice people, they want us to fight over petty differences. This way, they have control over a persons mind so they wont rebel against them. This is known as “Divide and Conquer” where they don’t get their hands dirty and the people do the work for them.


I wanted to add something different concerning ourselves. Do you guys know where your negative ideas come from? Think deep to the root of it all and realize that these ideas are basically implanted into your mind. Societal expectations are basically these ideas that end up corrupting your mind because you BeLIEve you should be like everyone else.

Why are things popular? Why are they introduced into the mainstream?

Believe it or not your beloved Government are the ones that determine what’s hot and what’s not. Hollywood has Government ties also, just look at who the US president is currently, a mogul who would show up from time to time on WWE “programming”. He’s not the first as Ronald Reagan was also an “actor”.

Think about how mainstream culture impacts the population. Listen to the music and how it really has degraded overtime, its all about the same thing, money, sex, fighting, etc. This is indeed brainwashing if it is done too much. This is the truth, there are even declassified documents confirming the US has experimented on their citizens through MKULTRA.

But going to a more spiritual route, I know why this happens. As per the Ra Material, we have 2 options, the Service to others (Positive path) or Service to self (Negative path). Most people because of the conditioning to “make money” and actually believe everything that is going on, though most things nowadays are being fabricated to harvest negative energy. Why do you believe they push for you to become depressed? Why do they try to “sell” you the solution? It is because it is part of making profit off of you. Depression gives way to negative energy. Emptying your mind and being thoughtful, loving and helpful to others inclines towards the positive route. You can empty your mind through deep meditation, I have tried it and it has worked wonders to me seeking the positive route.

There is a lot more, but at this point I want to take it slowly to make you, my LP family understand what is going on.


heeyyo @Woco21 - first of all welcome back to the forums- the place to make diverse experiences-

I guess we all made - more or less- the same experience and conclusions that you described in your post above. Some were deeper in it- some managed to overcome and find real sense and friends and managed to feel partly happy others are still on their way- to figuer out what´s right and what´s wrong for them. That´s possible- even if it´s not easy- and it´s diffrent for each of us- I guess the goal is to find people in your life that share your values and points in order to have people you can trust and count on- that they have your back- no matter what.

The society expects so much these days from each of us and I agree with you that it is like kinda brainwashing that we all run into fullfilling these expectations- and if we don´t fit- we´re out- that´s a permanent stresslevel that really makes you ill- mentally and bodywise.

Knowing this the next step is to make decisions- what is good for me and what hurt, stress or overwhelms us permanently. If you found out the toxic factors and people in your life- make decisions. Consider what empowers you and try to bring this into your life instead of wasting time with and in illness causing circumstances and persons.

That isn´t easy and no gurantee that the next bs won´t happen- but it´s good to do it anyways- to never give up and belive in your power- will and strenght.

:sweat_smile: wow, I just wanted to say welcome and that I like your post- see how you inspirated me? Thanx for this and I´m happy ya back my friend :slight_smile: stay strong :muscle:


Yeah that’s the golden question isn’t it, why are things so messed up in this world? What’s the true cause of all this suffering and destruction? I think this book ‘‘The most dangerous superstition’’ does provide some solid answers to these particular questions though.

Thanks for your recommendations, I’ll check them out!

Technically, I think these are all occult books since they involve occult knowlegde. The word ‘‘occult’’ simply means hidden, or hidden from plain sight, and most of this knowledge is pretty well hidden I’d say :sweat_smile:


@theearlywalker Yes of course, close relationships with other like minded (and not) people is essential. The thing is, at this point its not about our wrongs, but the wrongs being pulled off in our faces and we accepting them.

Of course, brainwashing is a means being kept alive through propaganda that we are indulged in 24/7. Don’t matter if it’s here or in Europe, SA, Africa, etc. Mainstream culture tends to be mainly molded around Hollywood culture, I mean, all of us here are joined by being fans of the same band, even though we are MILES and seas apart. That’s how effective it is.

Yes, one has to correct their mistakes along the way, same with their friends and family. Unfortunately, this is all we have for us. Negativity needs to pushed away by calming the mind and training it. Showing it YOU are in control. Don’t bow down to those thoughts, because we as humans possess more power than we are told.

@rickvanmeijel Yes, the answer is pretty simple, it has been designed to be that way in order for this experience to function in said way. As mentioned before, there is an intermediate factor that helps both positive and negative aspects give way. Dark/Light, Good/Bad, Heat/Cold, etc. Though we as human beings can change all that by negating the negativity. Stop watching the TeLIEvision because all it does is pushes the negative narrative. I walk outside and my neighbors aren’t killing me. I know its not everywhere, but negativity and division is pushed because they want to entice turmoil, over petty differences.

Yes, most knowledge is hidden in plain sight. As we mentioned in my other thread, this world runs on numbers and symbols, which I won’t dive into completely yet. A seed must be planted for those who seek said information. In our current generation, no one wants to pick up a book and know more things, as they believe everything is given to them, though most information is given through one side, which is biased. KNOWLEDGE is power, unfortunately no one really dives into it due to the distractions, or being scared of how deep all this goes, and it is very deep. From the food you eat, how many times you eat, the water you drink, the news you are given (and not), etc. Just to name a few topics.

Did you notice the double meaning to “Oc-Cult”? which means Hidden Group, lets add knowledge to “occult” HIDDEN GROUP KNOWLEDGE, o where that come from? :o. Words have special meanings, so check your "SPELL"ing.

Bet you didn’t know the origin of the word “Work” is closely related to torture :wink:

There are MANY words that have quite some meanings in them, I can go on with them, but would like some people to find them, if they are interested of course :slight_smile:


This. It’s the idea of divide and conquer right? Keep people busy with fighting each other over all sorts of dumb and unimportant stuff, so that they won’t even consider the important things, let alone explore it. In the end, we’re all just human beings, though living in enormous populations, separated and controlled by a ruling class.

I never even saw this, that’s kinda cool actually. Comes from secret societies who possess hidden knowledge?

I see what you did there haha. Your spells won’t work on me :smile:


Exactly! it is such a effective technique, that many actually believe it. I go by, If I don’t see it with my own eyes then, there must be something to it. Always question events and their surroundings, or results.

I think that would be too telling lol. But there it is, in plain site :stuck_out_tongue: There are many words that use these mannerisms, I have a couple of examples I have written down. (This is from a “book” I was writing")

_Government and Entertainment both end with the same word, ment. This word if defined from its Latin roots (Mens, Mentis) means “Mind”. Govern means “To control”, both words joined together give the result of, “to control the mind”. Hidden phrases within the word itself! Though Entertainment is a bit more complexed than that, and from what I have gathered, breaking down the words would give the following: _

_Enter = To go in _
Tain/Tame? = Hold/Capture (Tain comes from root-word ten)
Ment = The Mind

“To hold/capture the mind”, is what “Entertainment” as a word is indirectly mentioning. A means of distracting the mind, on basis of programming said minds through entertainment, media, television, sports, etc. Basically, all distractions from questioning. The world that you must come to know, and love has been built on the principle of having people working as mindless drones. Never questioning the narrative that are being pushed in today’s world.

And yes, the “spells” should not work on you, learn to decipher how they use the “magic” of words. You can Change the “G” in “MAGIC” and put an “S”… What word do you get :wink: ?, hint hint, it is a means of brainwashing also.


I agree on the importance of knowing about the underlying meaning or roots of words. I’ve heard about the meaning of government and entertainment before, makes a lot of sense when you think about it.

Edit: This popped up in my mind: I’ve not checked it myself, but according to Mark Passio, the word ‘religion’ translates to ‘to bind’ or ‘to hold back (from progress)’

You are writing a book?


Of course it does, but no one really questions the fundamentals of their Education at times. As children we are molded to accept many things as facts. Same can be applied with the basic model of a happy life, it is accepted as fact. Not many question why they do it, they just do it.

I have not checked into that, may be a worthwhile to look into it. To me, all religions have basic fundamentals of truth instilled within them, the thing is, many of these texts have been corrupted over millennia by people in power. I mean, its all in there really, its deciphering what is “real” and what is there planted to induce fear in the populace to keep them obedient.

One example I would give, in many major religions fasting is a must, but unfortunately in our current world we are taught to eat 3 meals per day, some more. Your digestive system at this rate, would only digest at 50% efficiency and would take longer to break down said food. Meanwhile if you fast, your body does it at its true potential. There are many foods out in the market that just secrete bad chemicals into the body that makes us sick, this is where BIG PHARMA comes in, you use some pills to cure one thing, but the side effects bringing in other things to worry about. PROFIT is the endgame in either. Ever heard of the Mucusless diet? It’s pretty straightforward. The funny thing is, the founding father of said diet, Arnold Ehret, died in the silliest of circumstances.

I began early January, but I covered quite a bit of topics, it is only 20 pages in but I feel would be overwhelming for quite some people. Think Mannerisms deciphered, topics including diet, conspiracies, etc. Stuff most people would be clueless and such. I stopped at that as I felt it would be too complex, I rather explain it to people than have it all in writing. Saves the headache lol.