The Unwritten Rules of a Chat


#1

This is in response to the horrid chat crash with Mike on Tuesday. As great as the white board adventure was, I was sad, not being able to catch up with Mike.

Go ahead and complain if I insult you, but this is my honest opinion, and I know for a fact I am not the only one that thinks this. And these ideas were proven when Adam did a chat right before Mike, and answered every single one of my questions and random comments.

1) Know the actual rules, to begin with.

If the rules say ‘do not write in all caps lock,’ then do not write in caps lock. What would look more appealing to Mike, or any band member? What would be “polite”?

This: HI MIKE!!! OMG HI GOOD MORNING!!!1111!!!

or this: Hi Mike! Good morning!

I think the latter one. And that is especially better for those of you who can’t write in English (which is another rule). If you’re not blasting out another language in caps lock, we won’t terribly mind you if you just want to at least say a greeting… But try to say it in English.

2) Do not ask “WHEN ARE YOU COMING TO (insert country)?!!”

From what they’ve explained countless times, especially poor Adam, I’m pretty sure our six favorite band members are not in charge of deciding what countries to hit on tour. Simple as that.

And do not make this a whole “You Americans don’t have to ask because they are there every time!” The United States is their home, where they came together. Of course they will always come here. And you have every right to wonder when they will come to you, but remember that not every country would be a sold-out concert. It is only reasonable to go to countries in which they would have the highest outcome. So, if you think you have a country, ready to sell out a concert for Linkin, then do something about it. I believe that’s what South Africa did, and now look at the reward they’ll be basking in.

And making an adventure to go see them elsewhere is not impossible either. Save up for a trip two or three years down the road. It’ll be an amazing experience.

3) Do not repeat and spam the chat.

What I got to see Adam do, was scroll up, and go through the chat at his own pace. So, he saw a question? He answered.

Then surprise, surprise- he skipped ones he already saw/answered. He was nice enough to say “I already answered that,” so we knew he wasn’t necessarily just ignoring. And what happened with Adam, should happen with every chat-- people kept their effin’ cool! They did not explode and bombard Adam!

Imagine asking a question once. Instead of filling the chat, making that poor scroll bar “small” as hell and 3/4 of it being the same damn question/comment- you input a question or comment, properly written and not in caps lock. You ask another, but different! You respond to something he says-

He could quite possibly keep up with the chat. If he could scroll up, and be able to actually read down without getting a headache, we might actually get answers! Supposedly standing out is not best.

I am a assistant to a professor, and any messy writing, pretty-color-sparkle pen, or anything with neon colors are looked over, and aw, look- no points for a grade.

Do not press space to make your text alignment different, use bold here and there, ~~~OR DO THIS~~~~. If you are an adult, young or old, act like it. If you are a teen, you might as well start growing up at least in this aspect.

If he could read the chat as casually as reading an article, imagine how amazing these chats could be! I’m paying $60.00 for the opportunity to chat with a band member, and those $60.00 could feed me for two weeks. Please enjoy it more with me.

4) Think about your question.

I’m not against being fun, or getting to know the guys… but really?

I much rather know “Were the (beautiful) lyrics for ‘Roads Untraveled’ especially pertaining to your friendship to each other?” than “Do you pick your nose?”

I’m just saying.

5) If he says to stop doing something, then- stop doing it.

You are not being funny or thinking on your own if he asks you stop asking for shout outs, and you keep asking for shout outs.

You are being rude and (insert word I probably can’t say here anyways), wasting time and space on the chat.

Wouldn’t you appreciate having your question answered more than a mindless repeat of what you type out for him to “shout-out”? It wouldn’t be a real shout out anyways.

Therefore, quit.

In the simple quoting of Adam- “Boom.”

-'Tasha


#2

You know, instead of people spamming LPU chats with annoying mindless questions like “WHEN YOU COME TO (insert country here)” people should be asking valid questions like:
Why is there this really awesome sounding “strings” sound on In My Remains live (that pretty much is the loudest element of the song live) yet, it is absolutely no where to be heard on the actual track from the album?
another question I want to ask is,
What was the farthest away gig destination that Hybrid Theory/Linkin Park ever got before they were signed on to Warner Bros?
Seriously, there is a lot better stuff you could ask, and do so in moderation.
Completely agree with the above ^^^^.


#3

Chat is English Only so please stop talking with your own native language -.-
If I may add :

  1. All spammers shall be frozen out.
  2. If LP isn’t coming to your country, deal with it and move on.
  3. Spammer : “Mike, I’m your greatest fans, LP IS MY LIFE”.
    Me : “Ooh please, you’re not the greatest fan ever. Accept it”

Peace out :3


#4

I once found a really helpful post on LP.com about band chats, I’ll try to find it. [smile]


#5

I think we should submit questions in advance and then have the opportunity to tune in to his video chat and listen to him answer relevant questions…thus locking the ability for us to even type anything…

I bet if they (all the band members) did that we would get ‘video chats’ more often: and think of how many questions they could answer in just a short amount of time!

This can still be personal - he can shout out who’s name answered the question…
Mike: “Hi Kristyne from Canada, she wants to know…blah blah blah…” and then he answers the question.

How’s that for an idea??


#6

Wow, yes! I cannot agree more with what all of you have said!
A little respect for these men who have made all of our lives that much better is not too much to ask for. I think the pre-submitted question idea is spectacular! That would cancel the nonsense chat that makes it more of them trying to find something in the endless lines of type and less time replying to a question.
We could see them looking into the camera more and yes, cut out the probability of the chat freezing and ending way too soon.
I would love if these simple guidelines would be the rule of the chat and end the rubbish that obliterates real, honest questions.

Solid post Tasha!! Thank you! [biggrin]

-Phoenix


#7

amen Natasha! there should be a LPUTFW only chat sometime too


#8

Nice try, but it’s not going to work. Most noobs who break the rules do not really frequent these boards and if you try to restrain them, they will lash out because they have about as much self-control (and intelligence) as a pre-pubescent chimpanzee.


#9

Those sounds good and made with common sense. Because those are made with common sense they seem to be easily followed. Hopefully people comes to their senses and follow these rules… I don’t think so but I hope it.


#10

I couldn’t agree more too


#11

this is the reason of more than 1000 LPU-people - when mike came into the chat suddenly 200 users became up to 700. 100 of this 700 were able to follow the rules. the others are a kind of children, this happens in chatrooms everyday - the most of people aren’t able to think about theire behavior. the video chat is an great opportunity to stay in closer contact to the fans.
another little problem: it’s difficult to post really honest questions - no one could stay in a dialouge with one of the bandmembers, for example to buttonhole somebody. there are just simple and maybe stupid questions - from people who are very excited and people from other countries try theire best to post any questions - in cause of theire knowledge of english.
I don’t think that we are able to change this…


#12

[quote=AnVanOppens]I once found a really helpful post on LP.com about band chats, I’ll try to find it. [smile]


#13

[quote=Chemist999]if you try to restrain them, they will lash out because have about as much self-control (and intelligence) as a pre-pubescent chimpanzee.
[/quote]

That was the best/perfect description of the people on chat lmao!


#14

[quote=Kristyne]I think we should submit questions in advance and then have the opportunity to tune in to his video chat and listen to him answer relevant questions…thus locking the ability for us to even type anything…

I bet if they (all the band members) did that we would get ‘video chats’ more often: and think of how many questions they could answer in just a short amount of time!

This can still be personal - he can shout out who’s name answered the question…
Mike: “Hi Kristyne from Canada, she wants to know…blah blah blah…” and then he answers the question.

How’s that for an idea??[/quote]

I really like this idea, and it guarantees the peoples questions can be seen and answered with a fair chance.

I miss the old LPU chats when everyone would sign in and the admins would actually disable the peanut gallery, start from a certain letter, and if your username began with that letter you could type your question and they’d pass along the actual questions. And you could SEE the questions and the responses from the member chatting.

Ah the good old times… lol.


#15

[quote=Kristyne]I think we should submit questions in advance and then have the opportunity to tune in to his video chat and listen to him answer relevant questions…thus locking the ability for us to even type anything…

I bet if they (all the band members) did that we would get ‘video chats’ more often: and think of how many questions they could answer in just a short amount of time!

This can still be personal - he can shout out who’s name answered the question…
Mike: “Hi Kristyne from Canada, she wants to know…blah blah blah…” and then he answers the question.

How’s that for an idea??[/quote]

Yeah, good idea! I agree with you. There were only two drawbacks:

a) For sure, there would be a bunch of questions. To keep it negotiable, it would be necessary, to create a limit of 1 question per LPU member. Or a number of questions could be assigned as a part of a contest.
b) the spontaneity and the live feeling would get lose a little bit.

But the advantages of this approach outweigh. And the possibility to do spontanous chats with the normal (old) rules with normaly less LPU members would still exist.


#16

AMEN.


#17

[quote=Kristyne]I think we should submit questions in advance and then have the opportunity to tune in to his video chat and listen to him answer relevant questions…thus locking the ability for us to even type anything…

I bet if they (all the band members) did that we would get ‘video chats’ more often: and think of how many questions they could answer in just a short amount of time!

This can still be personal - he can shout out who’s name answered the question…
Mike: “Hi Kristyne from Canada, she wants to know…blah blah blah…” and then he answers the question.

How’s that for an idea??[/quote]

Amen, again!


#18

[quote=DLB]
I miss the old LPU chats when everyone would sign in and the admins would actually disable the peanut gallery, start from a certain letter, and if your username began with that letter you could type your question and they’d pass along the actual questions. And you could SEE the questions and the responses from the member chatting.

Ah the good old times… lol.][/quote]

Those were awesome times indeed. The chats back then were a lot more efficient as far as answering questions go. Correct me if i’m wrong but I don’t think tinychat has a way to mute the entire room and selectively un-mute certain people like the old chat did.

Another problem is that the LPU is absolutely huge now compared to what it was years ago. With 700 people in a room it is impossible for everyone to get their questions asked even if the aforementioned method were to somehow be implemented. That would leave a lot of disappointed and unhappy members.

Seems like the band and LPU have an interesting problem on their hands concerning this. Hopefully they can find a good middle ground to please the most amount of people and run the chat in the most efficient way possible. It would be a shame if we lost band chat opportunities someday because of growing problems such as this.


#19

[quote=DLB][quote=Kristyne]I think we should submit questions in advance and then have the opportunity to tune in to his video chat and listen to him answer relevant questions…thus locking the ability for us to even type anything…

I bet if they (all the band members) did that we would get ‘video chats’ more often: and think of how many questions they could answer in just a short amount of time!

This can still be personal - he can shout out who’s name answered the question…
Mike: “Hi Kristyne from Canada, she wants to know…blah blah blah…” and then he answers the question.

How’s that for an idea??[/quote]

I really like this idea, and it guarantees the peoples questions can be seen and answered with a fair chance.

I miss the old LPU chats when everyone would sign in and the admins would actually disable the peanut gallery, start from a certain letter, and if your username began with that letter you could type your question and they’d pass along the actual questions. And you could SEE the questions and the responses from the member chatting.

Ah the good old times… lol.

[/quote]

Ah, I remember those :slight_smile: Maybe a good compromise would be to do some of both types. While it’s always fun to have the live chat going & see the crazy things people type, and I’m guessing it’s nice for them to see what people are saying as they talk, instead of just answering pre-asked questions to a webcam. But then sometimes we could also do the old way - have questions submitted and answered more efficiently.


#20

This.

I wish there was a way to go back to a more Sparkart-type based chat (LPU 1-9), while incorporating current video capabilities. There was definitely more organization back when mods had control over it.

The way things were set up back then:

· “Mod mode” was instantly set for the chat, meaning that no one could see what anybody else typed, unless the mods okayed it and sent it through for our viewing. In most cases, anyone that spammed their questions repeatedly or consistently broke a rule got the boot.

· Mods would allow certain groups of people to submit questions at a time. Then they would pick what they thought were the best questions and send them to the band member. For instance, they would start by calling out anyone whose username started with AB or C would submit ONE question first. After that, D, E and F and so on. If there was enough time at the end, they would go through the alphabet again to ensure everybody had a chance to at least ask a decent question.

And all we would see were the questions that got through, and the answers from the band member. I rather like the idea, though, of submitting questions beforehand, so they don’t have to waste any of their time trying to dig through spam and other nonsense.